[IIAB] Haitian Creole

[Chris Leonard]

On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Braddock <braddock at braddock.com> wrote:
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> "cpf", while listed as a language, did not have a locale entry.

No, James is not correct about the ISO code selection, sorry.

in ISO-639 "cpf" is not a language, it is a language group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creoles_and_pidgins

The correct iso-639 code for Haitian Kreyol is either "ht"
(two-letter) or "hat" (three letter).  Standard locale nomenclature
would be ht_HT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Creole

You would no more use "cpf" for Kreyòl Ayisyen than you would use "roa
- Romance languages" for Spanish or French.  Same conecpt, a language
group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_languages

> There is no pretty way to get a new language into the Babel library.
> I did a bit of a hack to pre-load the generic French locale as "cpf" -
> I'm assuming they follow french conventions in dates and currency, etc.

We will need to create a CLDR locale to do this properly.  A glibc
locale exists for ht_HT, but it needs some work.  I'm afraid the
assumption that ht_HT uses the same dates and currency info as fr_FR
is also incorrect.

> So Haitian Creole is now in IIAB.

But "jammed in" in an unsustainable way at present. I will work on the
glibc and CLDR locales with Kreyol localizers to allow it to be called
properly, as ht-HT.

Sorry to sound negative, but hacking i18n stuff is a dangerous
shortcut that ultimately leads to bad places we do not want to go.
Sadly it will take a little time to get it right, welcome to the
"bleeding edge" of L10n/i18n, it's where Sugar Labs lives...

cjl
Sugar Labs Translation Team Coordinator


> On 08/08/2013 07:18 PM, James McDuffie wrote:
>> You should try and name it according to the ISO 639 language code
>> I believe:
>>
>> cpf --          Creoles and pidgins, French-based
>>
>> http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013, at 04:33 PM, Braddock wrote: Chris and/or
>> James,
>>
>> When I add the Haitian Creole ht.po we are getting exceptions from
>> Python babel's library because it doesn't know the Haitian creole
>> 'ht' language code.
>>
>> It appears to depend on some underlying CLDR dataset which
>> contains the translations of language names into other languages
>> and a lot of other language information.
>>
>> Is there some standard way to inform the system of Haitian Creole?
>> Or is this a python specific thing?
>>
>> Thanks, Braddock
>>
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