[IIAB] [XSCE] Rendrering maps on XO1 at Silar's Orphanage Haiti

[Braddock]

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On 08/31/2013 10:33 PM, Adam Holt wrote:
> If someone can do this above test outside of Haiti it'd of course
> be great!  Is there a hidden but public URL for IIAB's
> OpenStreetMap folks like Kevix might try?

The complete Internet-in-a-Box demo is available for testing at
http://demo.internet-in-a-box.org

Note this is running out of my home and may suffer outages from time
to time.

I will open a ticket on this map loading problem and get John Kim, our
IIAB QA person who has an XO-1, on it.

We had IIAB maps running on 11.x (actually older I think) on XO-1s
back in May, so something must have broken.

It would really help if these sorts of bug reports could be CC'd to
the iiab at sgvhak.org mailing list so our other volunteers could help
support it.

It would be even more totally awesome if a bug report ticket could be
opened on github
https://github.com/braddockcg/internet-in-a-box/issues

- -braddock

> 
> (Sorry we generally cannot download OS's to Haiti for obvious
> reasons.)
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org 
> <mailto:holt at laptop.org>> wrote:
> 
> As John Watlington has stated so many times, engineers who expect
> deployments to upgrade to every new software release for the latest
> toys, "don't have a clue about education."
> 
> In short, Haitian schools generally use Release 11.3.1 given 
> their/our heavy earlier training investment in 
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Customization_stick And the fact that
> Release 13.x builds are not useful on XO-1s -- being far too slow
> at this time.  Release 12.1.0 we would have LOVED to consider back
> in March, but for its lack of Customization Stick.  All of which
> has been discussed on this list and others repeatedly, thanks to
> James Cameron etc, guiding others in similar grassroots deployment
> situations.  By early 2014 we can hopefully review this decision
> towards a new build for XO-1s in Haiti, if funds can hopefully be
> found to retrain Haitians, with a new method for individual
> community schools to customize their Activities along the lines of 
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder !?
> 
> Until then, hopefully Braddock (whose explicit design goal for 
> Internet-in-a-Box is that it be browsable on Windows 95) can tell
> us why or why not IIAB's OpenStreetMap can't be viewed on an OS
> released 17 years later (Release 11.3.1 ;)
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Anna <aschoolf at gmail.com 
> <mailto:aschoolf at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Honestly?  My initial reaction is that y'all should update the XOs
> to 13.2.0-13.  I understand that might not be feasible.  But it's
> extremely unlikely we can rework server services to accommodate
> ancient XO builds in the next few days.  I don't know what we're
> supposed to do.
> 
> Anna
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org 
> <mailto:holt at laptop.org>> wrote:
> 
> Braddock, Anna & All,
> 
> IIAB's tiny OpenStreetMap zoom buttons ("+" sign and "-" sign) do
> load on XO-1s here in Haiti, but unfortunately nothing else loads
> (no actual maps).
> 
> Getting these IIAB maps to load on XO-1s is critical (if we can in
> the few days we have left in Haiti, God Willing!!) given the rest
> of IIAB has been very frustrating to Haitians who don't comprehend
> written French, given their mother tongue is Creole :/
> 
> PS a few of the most advanced kids played with and searched thru
> article titles with IIAB's French Wikipedia on their XO-1s, which
> works but French accents are quite badly mangled (each accented
> character shows up as 2 "random" characters, rendering the text
> almost unreadable in many cases.  Apparently regardless whether the
> XO's set to English, French or Haitian Creole -- but we reneed to
> retest all 3 Sunday.  (Of course kids spend their entire time
> searching for "Real Madrid" and other useless sports trivia, the
> mangled French accents hardly matter, but still one hopes this is
> one day leading to more intellectual literacy Beyond the Boob
> Tube)
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:22 PM, George Hunt <georgejhunt at gmail.com
> <mailto:georgejhunt at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Adam was really the first tester of IIAB on a XO1 (os-11.3.1). He
> said that the first page of the map application just didn't load in
> 5 minutes.
> 
> I replicated the test, on an XO1, and then ran "top" in another
> terminal. It did not look like a cpu issue -- still id=50%.
> 
> I used my macbookpro9.1, in a side by side query to the map opening
> page, and everything worked well, and snappy. So maybe the best we
> can do is identify what resource is the bottleneck.
> 
> There were no entries in /var/log/messages -- sometimes i"ve seen
> an Out Of Memory daemon leaving a big footprint-- No diagnostic
> messages pop out at me.
> 
> Might you work with Anna, to set up an XO1, to help up figure out
> what's happening?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org
> !
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> -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org
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> -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org
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