[IIAB] [XSCE] Rendrering maps on XO1 at Silar's Orphanage Haiti

Wed Sep 4 10:46:46 PDT 2013

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On 09/01/2013 01:12 PM, Adam Holt wrote:
> Braddock, Might you also know why accents appear wrong within
> IIAB's French Wikipedia?

Hi Adam,
I've opened an issue ticket on this:
https://github.com/braddockcg/internet-in-a-box/issues/77

It is due to inconsistent language encodings in the wikipedia dumps we
get from the Kiwix project.  We need to hack around it (and have
indeed tried, but obviously not well enough).

- -braddock

> 
> For example the very main page of 
> http://schoolserver/iiab/zim/iframe/wikipedia_fr_all_09_2012 shows
> in both schools here in Haiti as:
> 
> *   WikipÃ©dia* est une encyclopÃ©die 
> <http://schoolserver/iiab/zim/wikipedia_fr_all_09_2012/A/Encyclop%C3%83%C2%A9die.html>
>
> 
multilingue, universelle et librement diffusable
> <http://schoolserver/iiab/zim/wikipedia_fr_all_09_2012/A/%C3%85%C2%92uvre%20libre.html>.
>
>  Which should appear as:
> 
> *Wikipédia* est une encyclopédie 
> <http://schoolserver/iiab/zim/wikipedia_fr_all_09_2012/A/Encyclop%C3%83%C2%A9die.html>
>
> 
multilingue, universelle et librement diffusable
> <http://schoolserver/iiab/zim/wikipedia_fr_all_09_2012/A/%C3%85%C2%92uvre%20libre.html>.
>
> 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org 
> <mailto:holt at laptop.org>> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Anish Mangal 
> <anish at activitycentral.com <mailto:anish at activitycentral.com>>
> wrote:
> 
> I didn't say upgrade your whole world to 13.2.0. I only said 
> upgrade *one* machine to check if it works. We can start to narrow
> down the problem from there, and hopefully come up with a solution
> which works on 11.3.x itself.  :-)
> 
> 
> If someone can do this above test outside of Haiti it'd of course
> be great!  Is there a hidden but public URL for IIAB's
> OpenStreetMap folks like Kevix might try?
> 
> (Sorry we generally cannot download OS's to Haiti for obvious
> reasons.)
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org 
> <mailto:holt at laptop.org>> wrote:
> 
> As John Watlington has stated so many times, engineers who expect
> deployments to upgrade to every new software release for the latest
> toys, "don't have a clue about education."
> 
> In short, Haitian schools generally use Release 11.3.1 given 
> their/our heavy earlier training investment in 
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Customization_stick And the fact that
> Release 13.x builds are not useful on XO-1s -- being far too slow
> at this time.  Release 12.1.0 we would have LOVED to consider back
> in March, but for its lack of Customization Stick.  All of which
> has been discussed on this list and others repeatedly, thanks to
> James Cameron etc, guiding others in similar grassroots deployment 
> situations.  By early 2014 we can hopefully review this decision
> towards a new build for XO-1s in Haiti, if funds can hopefully be
> found to retrain Haitians, with a new method for individual
> community schools to customize their Activities along the lines of 
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder !?
> 
> Until then, hopefully Braddock (whose explicit design goal for
> Internet-in-a-Box is that it be browsable on Windows 95) can tell
> us why or why not IIAB's OpenStreetMap can't be viewed on an OS
> released 17 years later (Release 11.3.1 ;)
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Anna <aschoolf at gmail.com 
> <mailto:aschoolf at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Honestly?  My initial reaction is that y'all should update the XOs
> to 13.2.0-13.  I understand that might not be feasible.  But it's
> extremely unlikely we can rework server services to accommodate
> ancient XO builds in the next few days.  I don't know what we're
> supposed to do.
> 
> Anna
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org
> <mailto:holt at laptop.org>> wrote:
> 
> Braddock, Anna & All,
> 
> IIAB's tiny OpenStreetMap zoom buttons ("+" sign and "-" sign) do
> load on XO-1s here in Haiti, but unfortunately nothing else loads
> (no actual maps).
> 
> Getting these IIAB maps to load on XO-1s is critical (if we can in
> the few days we have left in Haiti, God Willing!!) given the rest
> of IIAB has been very frustrating to Haitians who don't comprehend
> written French, given their mother tongue is Creole :/
> 
> PS a few of the most advanced kids played with and searched thru
> article titles with IIAB's French Wikipedia on their XO-1s, which
> works but French accents are quite badly mangled (each accented 
> character shows up as 2 "random" characters, rendering the text
> almost unreadable in many cases. Apparently regardless whether the
> XO's set to English, French or Haitian Creole -- but we reneed to
> retest all 3 Sunday.  (Of course kids spend their entire time
> searching for "Real Madrid" and other useless sports trivia, the
> mangled French accents hardly matter, but still one hopes this is
> one day leading to more intellectual literacy Beyond the Boob
> Tube)
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:22 PM, George Hunt 
> <georgejhunt at gmail.com <mailto:georgejhunt at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Adam was really the first tester of IIAB on a XO1 (os-11.3.1). He
> said that the first page of the map application just didn't load in
> 5 minutes.
> 
> I replicated the test, on an XO1, and then ran "top" in another
> terminal. It did not look like a cpu issue -- still id=50%.
> 
> I used my macbookpro9.1, in a side by side query to the map opening
> page, and everything worked well, and snappy. So maybe the best we
> can do is identify what resource is the bottleneck.
> 
> There were no entries in /var/log/messages -- sometimes i"ve seen
> an Out Of Memory daemon leaving a big footprint-- No diagnostic
> messages pop out at me.
> 
> Might you work with Anna, to set up an XO1, to help up figure out
> what's happening?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org
> !
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> -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org
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> -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org
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> -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org
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