[IIAB] [XSCE] Rendrering maps on XO1 at Silar's Orphanage Haiti

Wed Sep 4 10:56:57 PDT 2013

Very cool!  Thanks for prioritizing the French accents, as you don't want
to see an angry Frenchman, trust me (like my grandpa ;)

PS we solved the IIAB maps issue by upgrading painstakingly to OLPC Release
12.1.0 -- in fact our Haitian team in Grande-Goave, Haiti will be recording
their full 1-hour IIAB training session from 2-to-3PM starting in 5min :)

On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Braddock <braddock at braddock.com> wrote:

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> On 09/01/2013 01:12 PM, Adam Holt wrote:
> > Braddock, Might you also know why accents appear wrong within
> > IIAB's French Wikipedia?
>
> Hi Adam,
> I've opened an issue ticket on this:
> https://github.com/braddockcg/internet-in-a-box/issues/77
>
> It is due to inconsistent language encodings in the wikipedia dumps we
> get from the Kiwix project.  We need to hack around it (and have
> indeed tried, but obviously not well enough).
>
> - -braddock
>
> >
> > For example the very main page of
> > http://schoolserver/iiab/zim/iframe/wikipedia_fr_all_09_2012 shows
> > in both schools here in Haiti as:
> >
> > *   WikipÃŠdia* est une encyclopÃŠdie
> > <
> http://schoolserver/iiab/zim/wikipedia_fr_all_09_2012/A/Encyclop%C3%83%C2%A9die.html
> >
> >
> >
> multilingue, universelle et librement diffusable
> > <
> http://schoolserver/iiab/zim/wikipedia_fr_all_09_2012/A/%C3%85%C2%92uvre%20libre.html
> >.
> >
> >  Which should appear as:
> >
> > *Wikipédia* est une encyclopédie
> > <
> http://schoolserver/iiab/zim/wikipedia_fr_all_09_2012/A/Encyclop%C3%83%C2%A9die.html
> >
> >
> >
> multilingue, universelle et librement diffusable
> > <
> http://schoolserver/iiab/zim/wikipedia_fr_all_09_2012/A/%C3%85%C2%92uvre%20libre.html
> >.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org
> > <mailto:holt at laptop.org>> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Anish Mangal
> > <anish at activitycentral.com <mailto:anish at activitycentral.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I didn't say upgrade your whole world to 13.2.0. I only said
> > upgrade *one* machine to check if it works. We can start to narrow
> > down the problem from there, and hopefully come up with a solution
> > which works on 11.3.x itself.  :-)
> >
> >
> > If someone can do this above test outside of Haiti it'd of course
> > be great!  Is there a hidden but public URL for IIAB's
> > OpenStreetMap folks like Kevix might try?
> >
> > (Sorry we generally cannot download OS's to Haiti for obvious
> > reasons.)
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org
> > <mailto:holt at laptop.org>> wrote:
> >
> > As John Watlington has stated so many times, engineers who expect
> > deployments to upgrade to every new software release for the latest
> > toys, "don't have a clue about education."
> >
> > In short, Haitian schools generally use Release 11.3.1 given
> > their/our heavy earlier training investment in
> > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Customization_stick And the fact that
> > Release 13.x builds are not useful on XO-1s -- being far too slow
> > at this time.  Release 12.1.0 we would have LOVED to consider back
> > in March, but for its lack of Customization Stick.  All of which
> > has been discussed on this list and others repeatedly, thanks to
> > James Cameron etc, guiding others in similar grassroots deployment
> > situations.  By early 2014 we can hopefully review this decision
> > towards a new build for XO-1s in Haiti, if funds can hopefully be
> > found to retrain Haitians, with a new method for individual
> > community schools to customize their Activities along the lines of
> > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder !?
> >
> > Until then, hopefully Braddock (whose explicit design goal for
> > Internet-in-a-Box is that it be browsable on Windows 95) can tell
> > us why or why not IIAB's OpenStreetMap can't be viewed on an OS
> > released 17 years later (Release 11.3.1 ;)
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Anna <aschoolf at gmail.com
> > <mailto:aschoolf at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Honestly?  My initial reaction is that y'all should update the XOs
> > to 13.2.0-13.  I understand that might not be feasible.  But it's
> > extremely unlikely we can rework server services to accommodate
> > ancient XO builds in the next few days.  I don't know what we're
> > supposed to do.
> >
> > Anna
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Adam Holt <holt at laptop.org
> > <mailto:holt at laptop.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Braddock, Anna & All,
> >
> > IIAB's tiny OpenStreetMap zoom buttons ("+" sign and "-" sign) do
> > load on XO-1s here in Haiti, but unfortunately nothing else loads
> > (no actual maps).
> >
> > Getting these IIAB maps to load on XO-1s is critical (if we can in
> > the few days we have left in Haiti, God Willing!!) given the rest
> > of IIAB has been very frustrating to Haitians who don't comprehend
> > written French, given their mother tongue is Creole :/
> >
> > PS a few of the most advanced kids played with and searched thru
> > article titles with IIAB's French Wikipedia on their XO-1s, which
> > works but French accents are quite badly mangled (each accented
> > character shows up as 2 "random" characters, rendering the text
> > almost unreadable in many cases. Apparently regardless whether the
> > XO's set to English, French or Haitian Creole -- but we reneed to
> > retest all 3 Sunday.  (Of course kids spend their entire time
> > searching for "Real Madrid" and other useless sports trivia, the
> > mangled French accents hardly matter, but still one hopes this is
> > one day leading to more intellectual literacy Beyond the Boob
> > Tube)
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:22 PM, George Hunt
> > <georgejhunt at gmail.com <mailto:georgejhunt at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Adam was really the first tester of IIAB on a XO1 (os-11.3.1). He
> > said that the first page of the map application just didn't load in
> > 5 minutes.
> >
> > I replicated the test, on an XO1, and then ran "top" in another
> > terminal. It did not look like a cpu issue -- still id=50%.
> >
> > I used my macbookpro9.1, in a side by side query to the map opening
> > page, and everything worked well, and snappy. So maybe the best we
> > can do is identify what resource is the bottleneck.
> >
> > There were no entries in /var/log/messages -- sometimes i"ve seen
> > an Out Of Memory daemon leaving a big footprint-- No diagnostic
> > messages pop out at me.
> >
> > Might you work with Anna, to set up an XO1, to help up figure out
> > what's happening?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org
> > !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org
> > !
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org
> > !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org
> > !
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